Get him when you feel his cost is absolutely negligible. Khrysos - He saves you the few clicks in the early game, so handy, but not huge. Not sure he'll do much, but he'll at least allow you to coast better at the end of a speedrun that you're not ready to ascend out of. Chronos - He''s basically a cheaper but worse Bubos. Multiply his purchase cost by 11 to figure out when you should buy him. Morgulis - He's basically a 1.1x multiplier once you have a strong investment in him, but early on he's actually worse than that due to his purchase cost. Vaagur - Max Vaagur over the course of a 35ish minute run adds another x10 multiplier. Argaiv really starts coming into his own as you get a strong list of gilds and get them all onto a small number of heroes(ideally 1, but that takes FOREVER). Argaiv - You can buy him as soon as doing so is a DPS increase(do a save-scum check late in a run to find out if its a DPS increase. Factor in time-to-recoup and don't spend more than a run's worth of souls on him, though. Solomon - As soon as you get Atman mostly leveled, start looking for how you need to get Solomon, as he's hugely important. Its always best to buy and/or level him at the -end- of a run because of this. Protip: Atman's bonus primals are pre-decided on a run for run basis, so leveling him will instantly give you access to your primal roll on any floor you didn't originally get a primal on already this run. Atman - As soon as you start getting between 50-200 souls per run, you want to pick up Atman as soon as doing so won't cost you more than run's worth of souls(and you're comfortable with the time till you recoup your loss). Only reason to pick him quickly is that others, like Argaiv in particular, haven't met their benchmarks. Bubos - Bubos really helps for progressing through bosses, but he's not nearly as important as other long-game Ancients. Kumawakamaru - Probably the most important of the set, get him as soon as you start noticing that the pre-100 phase is just taking too long. Long Game These Ancients are bought at certain unusual progression points, not by slot timings. Gold Ancients There's not much to say about these individually, but these are simple, all-around strong ancients that work with every strategy.ġ.Mammon 2.Mimzee 3.Dora(worst of the 5 without Mimzee) 4.Dogcog 5.Fortuna 1 run is viable as an intro into speed runs, and in that case, add either above core to your build in addition to Vaagur, but always buy Vaagur first, as he's the only Ancient you're certain to get on your first roll, and only on your first roll.ĭR-stack only: Atman and Solomon - if you're dong back-2-back DR runs, these are the 2nd and 3rd strongest ancients you can have, and you should stockpile and reroll for them.
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Of note is that DPS multipliers are slightly stronger than Gold multipliers, so losing Lib for Bhaal is a plus of the Autoclick build, not a negative.ĭR-stack>Speed: Vaagur - This is your only core Ancient for DR-stack, and he'll enable you to travel as deep as you want into the later zones to grab souls off the primals and gilds. Both are purchasable at any soul level and both are worth spending at least 1 soul rerolling to get.Īutoclick: Fragsworth and Bhaal - Autoclicking already has a higher base value over idle, and these just make it bigger. Idle: Siyalatas and Libertas - these two are the defining Ancients of this strategy and are both super strong in it. straight DR-stack, which affects a few Ancients.ĬORE Your first few Ancients are going to play a big role in defining your playstyle for a long, and if you try to vary between them, you're going to slow yourself down unless you do it intelligently. Autoclick, which affects mostly which core-set you use. I'm going to recognize that these choices exist, and say what Ancients are best within those contexts.īasic strategies: Idle vs.
That said, if you can't pick an Ancient in your personal top 3-5, you should probably reroll, as the cost to reroll is cheaper than teh cost of picking a lesser Ancient usually.Ĭore Gold Ancients Long Game The Leftovers The Scrap Poison!įinally, a disclaimer: I'm not going to get into moral debates about Autoclicker builds, and I'm not going to debate the optimization values of DR-stack versus speed runs.
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Ok, so let's start by saying there's no hard and fast rule for how to pick Ancients because everyone's ancient rolls are different, and so there's always going to be slight variations.
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